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My thoughts on ECO RESET


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Eco reset



Advantage-

  • It helps out the server with it's eco.
  • Helps out the poor/new people so it will be fair for them
  • Restores the prices to a stable price
  • Overall have a healty eco

Disadvantage-

  • People will leave the server - this isn't good as player counts are very low
  • People would have wasted their time
  • Long time players who are rich will quit and new players will quit.

There are many more reasons for eco reset, but many players dont like eco reset as it will get rid of all their hard work in earning some money.


IRONMANS


Eco reset is completely unfair on ironmans (speaking as one), Ironmans don't affect the eco as they get all their items legitly and by themselves, they really put items in the cycle.

Especially as an ironman who have spent over 800+ hours on the game grinding for items and getting them as drops, this eco reset pisses me off as it would make my ironman useless.



Refunding donation points

This is a bad idea as it would make everything in the donation shops useless as people with hundreds of points will buy them out.

This will most likely cause a massive influx in nex sets, hybrid sets, vine whips, bps and other high value items which causes the eco to crash and make these items cheap.


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Many people will say that if ironmans keep their items they will just drop trade it to normal accounts. Lemme just say getting drops on ironmans are hard and valuable. I doubt any ironmans would drop their valuable items like nex sets or tridents etc to a normal account to get a head start. Also these high value items will be in the game already due to donation points being refunded.


I want the D J and Ajw to think about this eco reset carefully and think about how they want this to go. This could easily destroy the server.


But this may be good for the server as if advertisments come in (as promised) new players will come and they will have a equal chance to start so it can attract lots of new players but if that fails then the server will be dead.



Thanks for reading this, Jefferygods

Please go vote on the poll on Irony's thread!

https://simplicity-p...oblemsthoughts/


A suggestion to keep ironmans from "ruining" the fresh eco, their accounts could be disabled for the first few weeks or so.

Edited by Jefferygods, 20 April 2017 - 11:58 AM.

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No respect for Ironmans who donates!

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My main concern is how this is going to help the server in the long run. Unless the drop rates or value of things in DP store are adjusted, I don't see how this is a long term solution.

Between dungeoneering, pest control, and the boss point store, it's not difficult for new players to get decent items.

Also, I totally agree with your opinions on Ironmen - just make it so any ironmen accounts that keep their bank can't turn their accounts into normal ones, or it'd defeat the purpose. If I could do that, then there's no way my ironman could possibly affect the eco.

And if they are dead set on doing it, I wish they'd go ahead and do it before double xp starts, not in the middle of it.

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Why everyone is creating new threads to express their opinion? is it hard to keep discusion in one topic? 

 

More or less, i kinda agree with your statments, but i still think, that for normal players eco reset is needed. as for e.g. some players have "fair hard worked" 100b, 200b 80b, etc with dozens of rares in additional, i think these guys should be wiped out at least as if moderators do not ban them for making stuff in dirty ways.... 

 

Talking about Ironmen - totally agree with your fair opinion


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My main concern is that the plural of man is men not mans


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An eco reset is never a long term solution. Sure, it will stabilize the prices slightly for the time being, but even without people duping/smuggling, those who gamble and wind up with massive banks by doing so will eventually land us back to where we are right now. It's only a matter of time.

The only realistic way to fix this issue is to increase the player count. The more players there are, the more evenly the donor items will be distributed. The only reason our economy is the way it is now is because we lose over half of our player base due to nothing being done to the server.

At this point, as much as it sucks for everyone I feel like the eco reset should be done (though I don't think it should have the same effect on ironmen as everyone else), but if it is done then this can only be a one time thing. The developers need to follow through on what they say they will do, beause them not doing so is a big reason for people leaving prior to the reset. Zulrah's probably the biggest issue that this server has had with regard to it not being released on time (considering it's what, nearly 2 months over due?). It hasn't bothered me in particular, but it's caused a lot of issues. This eco reset can, and likely is to be only step one of the fix. Advertisements and updates need to follow it. If not then the server will die out like every other server has in this position. This needs to be well thought through, because a bandaid solution like this won't fix the server on its own.

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Zulrah's probably the biggest issue that this server has had with regard to it not being released on time 

 

Screw Zulrah, what happened to the coin orb that was announced on Sunday as coming out "tomorrow"? I was way more excited about that.



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But in all seriousness, here's something I feel really needs to be said no matter how unpopular it is.

 

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But in all seriousness, here's something I feel really needs to be said no matter how unpopular it is.

 

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 Totally agree Mr. Cow. Illiteracy is destroying server, not eco reset :)


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Why everyone is creating new threads to express their opinion? is it hard to keep discusion in one topic? 

 

More or less, i kinda agree with your statments, but i still think, that for normal players eco reset is needed. as for e.g. some players have "fair hard worked" 100b, 200b 80b, etc with dozens of rares in additional, i think these guys should be wiped out at least as if moderators do not ban them for making stuff in dirty ways.... 

 

Talking about Ironmen - totally agree with your fair opinion

 

Why should people with big banks be wiped  out? This is the biggest bs on this topic I've heard so far. Ban them? For? Gambling? That's laughable, it's in the game for a reason and a big reason why people come to rsps in the first place.


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Sorry but English is not my first language -_-

No respect for Ironmans who donates!

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Why should people with big banks be wiped  out? This is the biggest bs on this topic I've heard so far. Ban them? For? Gambling? That's laughable, it's in the game for a reason and a big reason why people come to rsps in the first place.

More like jealousy. People work hard for their stuff and you get people that either want to be like them or want to see the big boys lose everything.



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More like jealousy. People work hard for their stuff and you get people that either want to be like them or want to see the big boys lose everything.

 

Agreed, 100% brother, we're gonna grind the living shit outta simplicity again and make b0nk. Let's try to get shah, client, ayy and melviin back... the big 6 returns hahhahahaha


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Like sippy say " can't have everything in this world" just pick your feet up grind again XD

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players come and go

 

the reset is needed

 

i'm a rich player and i couldn't care less about my items

 

I am glad we are restarting

 

there's no problem with the donation point refund

 

the items will be worth grinding for and the player base will increase as everyone starts over



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players come and go

 

the reset is needed

 

i'm a rich player and i couldn't care less about my items

 

I am glad we are restarting

 

there's no problem with the donation point refund

 

the items will be worth grinding for and the player base will increase as everyone starts over

I totally agree with u here man! i couldnt tell it better myself.


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Yeah, I agree with this lets just hope it works out alright and we don't loose too many players. :unsure:



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Support but I NEVER signed up for a few weeks with my account disabled.. so F*** that Jeff Iron men ruining eco shouldn't even be a f**king concern.. There are 3-4 main iron men with loot good enough to drop trade.. as Normal players / people are getting Donation points back (some in the 1000's) Iron men have no impact at all.. We just have to accept that owners DGAF about us, Staff can't do anything except support Owners, Players hate us as they don't see how hard it is to be an iron man on this server especially when you haven't donated. Zakk will use all his Donation points to be rich again so F**k his imput And most people are just S**t C**ts who grammar Nazi all day long... oh and then there's siploe..

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its happening :) cant wait for the grind back :D


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Yes

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But in all seriousness, here's something I feel really needs to be said no matter how unpopular it is.

 

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lol, too funny cow.


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